and has been a clip on "saturday night live," that big bird is a silly attack line but what he was saying, look, this is an area where i don't see a high priority to borrow money from china to support this. >>guest: the media says be specific, be specific, about law are cutting and what loopholes to get rid of, and the one program he mentioned there has been a week, now, of attention on this program. it is a very good example, neil, of why it is so hard to cut the federal budget. when you talk about single programs, gingrich learned this less monday in 1995 when i worked for him and we tried to cut the programs out, you get every constituency that cares about the programs and theys every lobbying dollar to save the programs. mitt romney is saying if we cannot get rid of this what can we get rid of? >>neil: do you think the folks at "sesame street" said we don't like being part of an ad campaign, come on, just chill.